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Attempt Denied!
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Tupelo, Mississippi, United States / April 1, 2012
Fifteen-year-old Andrew Magdy Kamal registered a theoretical physics theory. See details here.
DENIED: Lacks sufficient evidence.
- must present a web link to the registered theory
- must register theory at RegisteredWorks.com
- must present visual evidence
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Tags: youngest, science, theory, theoretical physics, patent
Ritvik sharma
Please help
Ritvik sharma
Hello friends ....I discovered a theory and I don't whether it is correct or not ..
Hamid Behroozian
Hi. I have a new theory about Bing Bang and what gonna happen to the universe. my theory contains time and its dimensions, matter and antimatter, quantum relations between them, higgs boson, representation of the on going process of cosmos in the form of mathematics and geometry. It is a very fundamental theory that I`m sure it would revolt and improve the physics basics. My question is that I want you to help and show me that how can I prove my integrated theory and how can I be sure that no body uses my idea in the time that I discuss about it? Human beings need to be aware of the reality and what is really going on.
Nasir germain
Here is my email so we can collaborate Nasirgermaingrantgmail.com
Arghyadeep Chatterjee
Can you please tell me the site where I can publish my theories.
Arghyadeep Chatterjee
There is my theory of time. Time must be a ration of magnitudes with same units all together . Time should be directly proportional to acceleration due to gravity ( I am using acceleration due to gravity because when you travel at speed of light the Mass on which acceleration acts to create force will become energy. So basically it will be xJm/s^2 .) Time should be inversely proportional to space .( more the space , less the acc due to gravity) So taking k to be a constant of proportionality we get T = S * g / c^2 ( since to alter time we must reach the speed of light) . S is space and g is gravity. take the magnitude to be x and therefore. m * m / s^2 / m^2 * s^2. The units cancel out. And time is one. So 1 - 1 = 0. I give you the fundamental digits of the theory of binary universe 0 and 1 same like lazer and particle
Nasir germain
Sorry for such a delayed reply My email is nasirgermaingrantgmail.com Please email me if you would like to collaborate on such a topic
Arghyadeep Chatterjee
you can view my new logarithmic calculation :- Arghyadeepquantumphysics in youtube
Brandon Hosszu
I can finally explain that the universes was crated by something it did not just pop out of no were but not telling one yet because hard on it and steel it and I don't how to get out there. this is. Excellent work.
Nasir Germain
http://www.amazon.com/Ideas-Geniuses-Germain-Dr-Andrew-Nassif/dp/1482749130
Nasir Germain
There good, also if you want to see my book google search the Ideas of Andrew Magdy Kamal and Nasir Germain (this is Nasir) also on my youtube account Nasir Germain Grant I have some physics videos
Bishal Banjara
u r welcome Nasir..have u look at my papers...i know there r wrong attempts in basic ideas in physics...
Nasir germain
Thanks Bishal Banjara
Bishal Banjara
Comment moderated
Muhammed M
I broke the newtons law. where can i get patent for my theory. pls send mail to mohamed_kabeer2002yahoo.co.in
Nasir germain
Sorry for such a delayed reply My email is nasirgermaingrantgmail.com Please email me if you would like to collaborate on such a topic
Andrew Man
Hmmmmm
Nasir germain
im reporting this website
Dan Rollman
As Jennifer Wark noted, we have changed the status of this record to "Pending" until Andrew can provide further evidence of his claim.
Despite heated input from various parties, I'm thrilled by this thread. We built RecordSetter with a collaborative moderation process in mind, and this conversation is great evidence of that.
Thanks to all for keeping the debate constructive and intelligent. Onwards we go toward our eventual mission of building a Wikipedia of human achievement.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
I sent you an email with proof for this record
Beeky Leeky
I did not remove you from the wikipedia article, that must have been someone else probably found no proof for your claims. I am not insulting you, why can't you see that ? I'm saying what you present is wrong for so and so but you keep making it personal.
Andrew Man
Please BEEKY STOP, WHY DID YOU KEEP REMOVING ME FROM THAT WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE, WHY DO YOU KEEP INSULTING ME, WHAT THE HECK MAN, DO YOU LIKE HURTING PEOPLES FEELINGS
Beeky Leeky
This boy (as well as Nasir) needs some kind of help. He's not going to get it if he's granted all these false records. He even modified a wikipedia article on child prodigies to include himself as one.
Beeky Leeky
Jenn, what about the other claims ? The Dirac medal ? Einstein award ? P vs NP problem ? All these are fabrications. Again and again, there is failure to provide any proof of this. And again abstract thought does not generate false equations; his basic equation which explains nothing says something like 10 apples are equal to 5 oranges. It does not make any sense.
Jenn Wark
The other claims don't affect the record. It is the Internet, so I'd hope that readers would take anything they saw out there with a grain or two of salt. I'm fine with editing anything that has to do with the record, it's rules, etc. so if any claims affect a record please let me know!
Beeky Leeky
I don't quite understand; nominees for the Dirac medal are known and he is not one of them. Neither was he nominated for the Einstein award. Again, the point I'm trying to get across is something has to be legitimate about the record. I cannot patent something that does not make any sense and is even wrong at any age and say that's a record. For example, this person: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Tao is one of the youngest full professors of maths in UCLA. Everything about him can be verified, even his work. You can find him listed on UCLA's website and find his papers published in all sorts of journals. Andrew claims he's a professor and has provided nothing as evidence. This current record does not hold also, you cannot patent wrong stuff and claim a record of youngest to patent anything it just does not work.
Jenn Wark
Actually to be fair, you can patent nearly anything. Doesn't have to work or be correct.
I do understand your point and it's certainly valid; I've put the question to other staff members here at RecordSetter and we'll see where it goes from there.
Ritvik sharma
Hello Jenn mam ....I discovered a new theory that will prove that earth was never created through big bang ....need your help.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Title has been changed, happy Leeky?
Andrew Magdy Kamal
"The procedure for granting patents, requirements placed on the patentee, and the extent of the exclusive rights vary widely between countries according to national laws and international agreements. The law says that proof of documentation, or any records documented in a specific date grants the inventee legal rights as the true invention owner."
Jenn Wark
While this is true, you've stated where the theory is meant to be patented, which makes it very easy to verify. The US and Europe each have a single governing body for registering patents, which means that while the procedures may vary, we're only looking at two organizations. When the patent appears in either database and can be verified, we can review.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
I sent Ms.Wark proof of the patent, by email just now
Jenn Wark
Thank you for the proof of filing; however, your seven-digit patent number is missing from the documentation. An application is not an indication that the patent has been approved; if you have additional evidence we can certainly review it.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Yes, but it takes patents 6 month to 2 years to show up on the database, public databases aren't as valid as a database check made by a lawyer, also I paid an attorney to file the patent and everything, so otherwise, this record is valid and still stands by my word.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Non Provisional Patent #61552350 Patent Pending in Europe Patent Registered in US By both Uspto and Creative Registry IPR Use Only Patented through company registered by the BB Accreditation and the US government
Jenn Wark
None of those are actual patents, Andy. Patents in the US are registered only through the US Patent and Trademark Office, not private companies. Patents in Europe are registered through the European Patent Office, not private companies. Both provide searchable databases of their registries, including pending patents. You have provided registration information, not a patent.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
I sent you the patent that was filed by USPTO on April 2012, that is filed by the US government
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Check your email
Nasir germain
when i see youre discoveries i will belive you leeky
Nasir germain
so go away leeky
Nasir germain
his theory is correct
Nasir germain
me and andrew are collegeues so whatever you say to him hurts me
Andrew Magdy Kamal
you have to be 13 years or older to sign up for the website, and if the parents register for you then it will show their name on the certificate not the 10 year old's so tell me BEEKY, how well you get a 10 year old to do that, and what would really be the point and why do you keep posting comments over and over again?
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Also the c in Einstien's equation applied to speed of light in a vacuum, the vacuum being an isolated universe when the universe isn't completely isolated.
Jenn Wark
Without putting too fine a point on it, we move through space/time at a relative constant equal to "c", which is why the theory holds true.
Beeky Leeky
Fine Andrew, I will find a 13 year old kid. That's not my point anyway. What I'm trying to say is what you present here is neither a theory nor a patent.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
WHOSE YOUR FRIEND THAT WOULD DO THAT TO THEIR KID? But okay, go ahead
Beeky Leeky
Well Andrew, in a sense you do need to prove what you claim, because you're claiming a world record. This is not a matter of agreement or disagreement. Your equation is WRONG. I'm not trying to hurt your feelings, I'm trying to point out to you that you're wrong. The only response you have to any inquiry is that you're right. Nothing else whatsoever. Why should this community then grant you a world record if you don't need to prove anything to them ? Why are you trying to associate a world record to your name if you don't need to prove anything to anyone ?
Jenn Wark
This particular record only remains standing as it makes no reference to the credentials and does not require the theory to be correct. In that sense, it is a record.
Whether the theory is correct is another matter entirely - the record doesn't require the theory to be correct, only that it be patented. Any member of the scientific community who views the record, the rules and the submitted theory is welcome to draw their own conclusions from there, of course.
Beeky Leeky
Right, I will then get my friend's kid, a 10 year old to go to that same website : RW whatever and write some completely wrong equations and get this record beaten. This RW website does not grant patents by the way just to let you know. A patent requires lawyers and registration somewhere else.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Okay fine, i.e go waste your time
Andrew Magdy Kamal
By the way the rules for the record says it must be rw registered, also what is the point of doing that to a ten year old, I mean seriously
Jenn Wark
Becky that is an excellent point; at the time it seemed like semantics but you are 100% correct -- registration and patenting are two separate processes. As patents can only be granted by a government, this evidence does not show the theory is patented. Andy, can you please provide the U.S. patent details so they can be confirmed; if you don't have them, the record will be modified to reflect the lack of a patent.
Beeky Leeky
Something else Jenn, when you say "theory" it has to be a theory. What I see here, so sorry to use this phrase but I can't find anything better, it's just gibberish. What is presented here does not qualify as a theory.
Jenn Wark
Merriam Webster defines "theory" as "abstract thought". Putting the notion of whether the thought is correct or not for a moment, do you agree?
Beeky Leeky
Not exactly. A scientific theory is a set of laws (hypotheses and equations) that have long withstood the test of experiments. This applies to Quantum theory, relativity theory, evolutionary theory, electromagnetic theory etc. in other words, abstract thought that leads to results consistent with experiments.
Nasir germain
be quiet and stop posting here GO AWAY
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Thanks Nasir
Jenn Wark
Nasir, please remember this is a community site and we welcome comments even when we don't all agree.
Beeky, I do realize you're correct, but the argument can be made that the record does not state it has to be a scientific theory, just a theory.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
I don't need to prove anything to you people. you are all title to your opinion if you agree say I agree, if you disagree say I disagree, but don't go ahead and call someone a fraud, rebuttal, and try to hurt their feeling, that would be going to far
Beeky Leeky
Your name is not listed on Harris Manchester College's website as a professor, and you provide no proof whatsoever of the theory. Can you put up a copy of your PhD thesis ? I even tell you the units are wrong in your basic equation and the only rebuttal you offer is "My theory is correct". Nasir, this website is not working and I can't find any theories there. There's no evidence that Hawking congratulated anybody on a theory so groundbreaking like you describe which should have made headline everywhere.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
In 2008. Also if you were valuable to the scientific community you would stop spending all your time discrediting me and use your time in research, wheat is your real name Leeky, are you even an actual physicist, where did YOU, yourself get your degree from?
Andrew Nassif
Can you please stop commiting on my records, please stop hurting my feelings, it is not nice, why are you doing this? We know you disagree, please stop
Andrew Nassif
I ment commenting, sorry for the fatal spelling error
Andrew Man
Okay
Jenn Wark
Hello Andrew, due to the controversy this record has sparked it is being reverted to pending status until your degree credentials and the theory can be verified. Thank you.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
They already have, but okay fine
Beeky Leeky
I can assure you Jenn, there's no degree and no theory. I'm a physicist myself and can tell when I see fraud.
Beeky Leeky
scientific fraud of course is what I mean.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET A LIFE AND STOP HARASSING ME AND MY FRIEND NASIR
Nasir germain
Andrew told me about some of the things you guys said about his theory and they are mean
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Our theories are correct
Nasir germain
And you have to ask Andrew where he got his degree from because I have no idea
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Doctorate for Astronomy from Branston University in 2012 Professoria in Physicsl from Harris Manchester College
Jenn Wark
Really? Harris Manchester College only accepts students over the age of 21.
Nasir germain
This theory has been accepted by Stephen hawking and Sual Paurter they have both congratulated Andrew for it
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Doctorate in Astronomy from Branston University in 2012 Professorial from Harris Manchester College in 2008 These people are not questioning my education, they are just being crude.
Nasir germain
Check out vixra.org/nasirgermain that's where me and Andrews theories are
Beeky Leeky
Hi Nasir, whom I suspect is Andrew also. Can you tell us what institution Andrew works at as a Professor ? Can you shows us some of his papers published in peer reviewed scientific journals ? And by the way, I am a physicist and work with physics and I published papers so I know it inside and out. This formula does not make any sense and is also wrong in terms of units. Not to mention, patenting a theory is of no use.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Nasir is my colleague, and seriously Leeky you must be a great physicist if you spend time on the internet insulting a teenage child prodigy
Nasir germain
None of you make any discoveries in physics
Nasir germain
I personally work with Dr.kamal as a physics colleague and he is right also some of the comments here ar hurtful and he does have a patent I have not seen any of you do any work in physics so quiet all of you
Nasir germain
Andrews theory is sound
Nasir germain
Andrews theory is sound
Nasir germain
Acceleration force velocity and power Think of a car force and power accelerate the car so the velocity of the mass is decided
Nasir germain
Andrew is correct
Beeky Leeky
Can you tell us Nasir, what are A, FV and P ? What experimental evidence also supports the theory ?
Nasir germain
This theory is correct Einstien is wrong the equation should have been E=MA^2FV*P
Beeky Leeky
If you have a PhD as they say, I can't find any of the papers you published, or did you patent all your PhD work as well ? What university did you get your doctorate at ?
Beeky Leeky
Wow man, what you have written here is not even write in terms of units . I realize you think or that you really are a child prodigy but what's written here is seriously flawed.
Dylan S
learn grammar and then lecture someone. "not even 'right' in terms of units."
Beeky Leeky
I was writing fast so I'm sorry. And I'm not lecturing him on grammar. I'm lecturing on physics.
Tom Zolotor
Andrew, I will look at you're evidence and see. If it is for real then this is a great discovery for science. Gratz!!!!
Tom Zolotor
How come the best minds in science have never proved Einstein wrong? His theory has passed every single test presented.
Goettl
I need to know how to protect my theory and do not know where to begin. Will you please help me? It is very important that you do.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
whats your email
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Okay slobodan olujic I will send you an email with full details
Slobodan Olujic
how can i patent a theoretical physics theory? answer at slobixyahoo.com
Frank Davies
Well silly young Andrew, of course anything in the states here is copyrighted as soon as it's written, ...that's the law. So, that being the case you are certainly far from the youngest person to have a copyright.
...I have a patent. You don't. Anyone can easily check online using the search feature at the patent office website. ...I did, and you aren't there.
I don't know that you spent anything. I don't care either. Whatever you think you have, it's not a patent, and you don't have a trademark either, although you could have a trademark if you wanted one, and had the money to pay for it.
I did look at your link and found nothing there of any significance. What you write seems to be nonsense, and unrelated to any science.
Whatever that 'record info' thing is, it's not a legal document of any kind, just more nonsense.
You are just a little boy playing little boy games, pretending to be something you are not.
...I'm a logician, which means I know logic, and can say with certainty that I have proved that your claim is false.
Patents have a number assigned to them, and if you said what your patent number was then everyone could look (in case you spelled your name wrong) and also see that you are telling a big fib.
Your parents must be very ashamed of you. I expect when you grow up you will wish you had never done this. Your future employers will Google you and find that you are not a honest nor a truthful person. ...So will your children and grandchildren and all your friends and relatives.
Goettl
I need to know how to protect a theory. Will you please help?
Nasir germain
Andrews theory is right
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Also it is copyrighted through protect a rite, patented through registered works and trademarked through the USPTO, so why do you think I would pay all the money unless I have some evidence to prove, did you even go to http://andsocialrew.wall.fm/news to see my articles and what I have to say, this section that you see here is just a paragraph in the big research paper. At least look at everything I have before you start to give me critisism
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Do you have real hard proof proving me wrong or not? Seriously show me the real evidence and data you have and give me a link to it if you think I am wrong
Andrew Magdy Kamal
click on the here link in the record info to see my patent, and how did you check, because I do have a patent and submitted evidence for it
Frank Davies
I checked the patent office and Andrew does not have a patent.
Anyway, theories are not patented, only inventions are.
As Matt said, this guy is just a troll.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
No its not, read my prweb and my fox news release at http://andsocialrew.wall.fm/news
Matt Kempster
SET ON April 1, 2012
This has got to be a troll, guys.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
I accept critisism
7anooch
I think it is perfectly clear what Einstein said, he said E=mc^2. There's nothing much to explain.
Frank Davies
Wow. Andrew, you are certainly out there. Funny guy! ...I'm pretty sure you don't have the slightest clue about any of this. Oh, and yes you may be certain that I have read Einstein's book on general relativity (more than forty years ago.) The famous equation you quoted is not the theory but just one equation on one page of the book. If you want to, you can Google it and find the entire text available online.
Folks, if you are reading this, take it from me that it's probably a joke Andrew if playing, and if not then he's just delusional.
In a nut shell Einstein realized that time and distance are measured the same (a foot is roughly the same as a nanosecond) and he applied it to geometry (an event has 4 numbers: length width height and time) which in turn was wrapped slightly by mass locally.
While only a few understood it when he wrote it, it's one of the two theories which cover all know phenomena. Modern string theory is sort of the merger of the two.
Einstein's work is spot-on accurate. Seriously accurate to the extent that in nearly a century we have not found any error in it, not even the smallest of error using the most precise of instruments and experiments.
It does not stand alone but is a step in our understanding, built upon the works of others such as Newton. Energy and mass were once though of as fixed, unchangeable, neither created nor destroyed, thus 'conserved' in the total quantity through all time. Einstein's work showed that energy and mass together were conserved, and that energy and mass could be converted from one to another. The famous equation: 'E equals m (times) c squared' allows a person to convert kilograms of mass into Jules of energy, which has indeed been confirmed and is what we refer to as atomic or nuclear energy.
lorena
Who is wrong, who is right, we sould see... but is encouraging that a young people are so dedicated to science.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Einstein said that energy equal mass time the acceleration of gravity squared or the speed of light when it comes to measurement of inertia forces both I have proved to be wrong.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
If you guys know show much how come you don't explain why do you just talk
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Oh then what did he say, if you know so much about what he said, why dont you explain
7anooch
This makes no sense at all. F=ma and E=mc^2 are two different equations. Energy and force were once synonymous, but not anymore. I suggest you don't confuse them. Both equations have been proven countless times. I don't see any mathematical proof. Real scientists publish peer reviewed papers to publicize theories, not patents. Einstein never said E=ma^2.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Jenn Are you denying my evidence
Jenn Wark
I certainly don't have the command of physics knowledge I once did, but I do know that Einstein's theory has been challenged before. A Google search can tell us that. The website used to register this theory does not cross-reference the work being submitted and gives no recommendation as to the validity of the contents being uploaded there -- the record merely states that the theory must be patented, not correct, so it is a record, whether the theory is acceptable or not.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
MATT first of all velocity equals distance divided by time, where the constent is time. Second of all Einstien is wrong because E = mc^2 equation applies only to isolated systems , not to everything in physics. He forgot a very important vairable in which I have included in my work. Einstien ony measured an intial frame of force rather then testing many vairables. My idea, however, works with everything and laws in physics.
Matt Kempster
I'm not challenging the record at all, it's just .. rather absurd. Not to be rude or anything, but I cannot see how Einstein ever said that E=ma^2. There could be an issue with translation, but c is a constant of velocity, not of acceleration.
Dan Rollman
Matt What do you mean? Are you challenging the theory? The evidence? The record category?
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Thank you Dan Rollman
MaAnn P.
Did I just read "Einstein is WRONG"? Wow, that's a big claim to prove.
Andrew Magdy Kamal
Hello everyone, let me tell you a simple thing, there is some theoretical evidence proving my theory, I will make a many page report and post a comment to the link to that report, after you read the report tell me what you think, even negative critization I will accept. OKAY
Jenn Wark
I agree; however it is a registered theory so it does meet the criteria. Technically.
Matt Kempster
what even. this is really not even right, what...